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corumstation · 02-28-2017

Birthright Citizenship was established under the 14th Amendment to reverse the egregious Supreme Court's decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford. The 14th Amendment point of contention is in these wording ... "subject to the jurisdiction". There are basically two ways to change this issue ...

1) Make another amendment (the 28th Amendment) to the Constitution ...

---> An amendment may be proposed either by the U.S. Congress or by a constitutional convention when called upon by 2/3 of the State legislatures.

-------> There has never been an Amendment called forth by 2/3 of the State legislatures to date
-------> Currently, the GOP control both legislative chambers in 32 states
-------> Amendment ratification would require 2/3 of both houses of Congress and 3/4 of the State legislatures

2) Congress can pass a law to reinterpret the 14th Amendment

---> That is a very radical change and could set dangerous precedent among the multitudes of varying factions within the government vying for their own interpretation!
---> The State Department has never interpreted the 14th Amendment that way.
---> No courts have ever interpreted the 14th Amendment that way, especially the Supreme Court!

According to Pew Research (2015), there is approximately 300,000 of these birthright citizens annually or a 7.5% of all births in the US resulted in birthright citizens. "Birth tourism" resulted in approximately 8000 birthright citizens according to the CDC for 2012. Currently, various sources (DHS, PEW Research, academias and etc ...) estimated the illegal immigrants population to be 12 million.

---> 60% of hispanic illegal immigrants came to the US due to economic factor according to Pew Research (2009)!

The reality of getting rid of birthright citizens will only complicate and entangle everyday life ... not to mention the added governmental intrusion. And yet, nobody has mention anything about its implementation. Implementation cost will be astronomical ...

---> The US has no national registry database of its citizens!
---> If a database is setup, all 325+ million current US citizens would have to be adjudicated!

In short ...

1) Getting a 28th Amendment to the Constitution would be extremely hard ... not realistic!
2) To reinterpret the 14th Amendment would most likely get striken down by the courts before it even gets to the Supreme Court!
3) Birthright citizenship issue is only a facade during election years. There are no viable proposals by any parties for the past century because it doesn't reflect an actual comprehension of how our citizenship and immigration laws work. It only resonates a lot with uneducated people at a gut level. Basically, the numbers don't add up!
4) "Birth tourism" is not a problem. It actually may only be a short term fad

02-28-2017	#15
corumstation R7 Tuyệt Đỉnh Cao Thủ Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,551 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5,832 Times in 1,025 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 286 Post(s) Rep Power: 23	Birthright Citizenship was established under the 14th Amendment to reverse the egregious Supreme Court's decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford. The 14th Amendment point of contention is in these wording ... "subject to the jurisdiction". There are basically two ways to change this issue ... 1) Make another amendment (the 28th Amendment) to the Constitution ... ---> An amendment may be proposed either by the U.S. Congress or by a constitutional convention when called upon by 2/3 of the State legislatures. -------> There has never been an Amendment called forth by 2/3 of the State legislatures to date -------> Currently, the GOP control both legislative chambers in 32 states -------> Amendment ratification would require 2/3 of both houses of Congress and 3/4 of the State legislatures 2) Congress can pass a law to reinterpret the 14th Amendment ---> That is a very radical change and could set dangerous precedent among the multitudes of varying factions within the government vying for their own interpretation! ---> The State Department has never interpreted the 14th Amendment that way. ---> No courts have ever interpreted the 14th Amendment that way, especially the Supreme Court! According to Pew Research (2015), there is approximately 300,000 of these birthright citizens annually or a 7.5% of all births in the US resulted in birthright citizens. "Birth tourism" resulted in approximately 8000 birthright citizens according to the CDC for 2012. Currently, various sources (DHS, PEW Research, academias and etc ...) estimated the illegal immigrants population to be 12 million. ---> 60% of hispanic illegal immigrants came to the US due to economic factor according to Pew Research (2009)! The reality of getting rid of birthright citizens will only complicate and entangle everyday life ... not to mention the added governmental intrusion. And yet, nobody has mention anything about its implementation. Implementation cost will be astronomical ... ---> The US has no national registry database of its citizens! ---> If a database is setup, all 325+ million current US citizens would have to be adjudicated! In short ... 1) Getting a 28th Amendment to the Constitution would be extremely hard ... not realistic! 2) To reinterpret the 14th Amendment would most likely get striken down by the courts before it even gets to the Supreme Court! 3) Birthright citizenship issue is only a facade during election years. There are no viable proposals by any parties for the past century because it doesn't reflect an actual comprehension of how our citizenship and immigration laws work. It only resonates a lot with uneducated people at a gut level. Basically, the numbers don't add up! 4) "Birth tourism" is not a problem. It actually may only be a short term fad Last edited by corumstation; 02-28-2017 at 06:50.